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El Poblado is the most popular neighborhood for foreigners living in or visiting Medellín. But it's not perfect and there are downsides of El Poblado.

9 Downsides of El Poblado: Living in Medellín’s Expensive Neighborhood

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49 thoughts on “9 Downsides of El Poblado: Living in Medellín’s Expensive Neighborhood”

    1. Scott Sweitzer December 17, 2020

      I’ll be staying at an AirBnB in Poblado for 3 weeks in January/February. As I plan on coming back to Medellín for longer stays in the future, I appreciate all this info and plan on visiting these neighborhoods while I’m in town.

      I live in Washington DC and currently people aren’t really making new in-person connections so long as the pandemic is in full force. When I was in Medellin a few weeks ago the atmosphere seemed a bit more relaxed.

      Do people here think it’s worth me trying to make friends while I’m Medellin next month? It would be lovely to join some meet-ups if people are, in fact, meeting!

      Scott

    2. I signed up with the Patreon, but it still won’t let me see premium content.

    3. Kathaleen Amundson December 7, 2020

      Thanks for finally talking about > 8 Downsides of El Poblado:
      Living in Medellín’s Expensive Neighborhood < Liked it!

    4. Good afternoon Jeff,

      thank you for all the informative info about Medellin. I have a question that hopefully you can recommend. I am a Canadian and been to Medellin 4 times within the last year and stayed mostly in El Poblado. I am looking to relocate and move there. I am looking to open a local bar that caters to the local people as well as the ex-pats. I am not looking to open a nightclub, just a local bar and hangout for the people and the regulars in the area. It won’t be anything fancy or large, maybe about 6-8 tables and a bar. Is there an area that you would recommend that is affordable. The rent has to be realistic and inexpensive. Thanks for your help

    5. Juan Carlos Campos Ochoa September 1, 2019

      For nightlife and fun, El Poblado is a must. Before my first trip to Medellin, I researched about best areas to stay. Comuna Buenos Aires neighborhood came to be best choice ever for the ones who want to experience local culture, hommie restaurants, people, and more city life. The metro station San Antonio was just 20 ft from my apartment in Medellin. There were many local restaurants, some are open 24 hrs. The neighborhood is vibrant, international, and it transpires life.

    6. Dennis July 27, 2019

      This is an awesome post about the downsides of El Poblado that should be required reading for any foreigner visiting Medellín or planning to live here. There is no way that I would want to live in El Poblado with all the hills and traffic plus the highest costs in the city. Why move to a city like Medellín and not want to experience the local life that can be so much cheaper?

    7. Dear Jeff, Thank you for such a wealth of information. I’m thinking of moving to Medellin but I do have a friend in Barbosa. One thing that would help is a map of Medellin indicating the estrato number in each section. Also showing hospitals in each area. For example I’m leaning towards Sabaneta but have no idea of the estrato number, availability of high speed internet or location of the nearest hospital in an emergency. It appears that there is less pollution and far less crime there. I don’t mind a train ride to El Poblado at a time other than rush hour. I may even consider Barbosa but can’t tell how far it is from El Centro or the estrato or availability of internet and medical. Many thanks for all the great info. I find myself looking of one thing and learning 3 others along the way! Very well organized and well written.
      David

      • Hi David,thanks. Unfortunately the estratos can change from neighborhood to neighborhood and sometimes even street to street. So I haven’t found any any maps with estratos. In Sabaneta where I live, 98 percent of the housing is estrato 2 to 4. And only 2 percent is estrato 1, 5 or 6. We plan to provide detailed neighborhood guides in the future.

        I used to have Google maps on over 100 articles on this site but removed them as they became expensive as this is a very high traffic website and Google started charging for maps.

        There are some small hospitals in Sabaneta but I would go to one of the top hospitals in the city, see: https://medellinguru.com/hospitals/

        Many buildings in Sabaneta have Internet service from Claro with speeds of up to 300 Mbps. We have 20 Mbps service from Claro in Sabaneta but could pay more for up to 300 Mbps speed. From the Sabaneta metro station to El Pobaldo is 10 minutes and to El Centro about 20 minutes by metro from Sabaneta.

        From Barbosa it is much further away as you would need to catch a metro bus first to the Niquía metro station, the most northern station. So, it’s probably about 50 minutes from Barbosa to El Centro via metro. And I suspect in Barbosa you can’t get as high speed Internet as you can in Medellín or Sabaneta. I couldn’t find estrato information for Barbosa but I suspect primarily estrato 2 to 3 and maybe some 4.

    8. Chuck Howard March 8, 2019

      Poblado is also a target rich environment for crime, too. The day-long gridlock gives me angst whenever I have an appt there. I moved out of Aburra Valley all together 4 years ago because of the traffic and pollution.

    9. I thought you left out one major downside of Poblado which is mentioned by a number of other readers. Too many Americans! (no offence). Or maybe too many of a certain type of American (and other nationalities). After three visits here as a tourist I took the plunge and moved to Medellin in October 15. I found an apartment in La Frontera which although expensive was perfect for my needs and I am still here more than three years later. In sharp contrast to Colombia’s international “image” as pushed by Hollywood and others, La Frontera actually reminds me a lot of my home town, Auckland, New Zealand. It is clean, green, secure and the people are soo friendly it actually takes a while to get used to! And the other big plus is there are not many “gringos” here., which is fine by me as if I wanted to live with Americans I would move to New York (maybe not the best example!) . Anyway, thanks to the current political numbers there are more and more Americans coming here but thankfully still nowhere near the ratio in Poblado especially surrounding Lleras. Anyway, Jeff, please don’t take this personally!, I love your website and you and your team do a fantastic job!

    10. Lots of good advice here. I initially planned on living in El Poblado but I have read everything I can get my hands on. I settled on Niquia, found a wonderful estrato 4 three bedroom two bathroom apartment near Niquia metro station and Centro comercial norte. With an oven because I enjoy cooking, pool, gym, 24/7 portería, parking garage, BBQ area, big balcony, playground and much more. Much less was way more money in El Poblado.

      My choice came down to blending into the culture and living closer to family. People don’t realize I’m a gringo until I open my mouth, haha. But it doesn’t seem to matter, maybe because I am respectful, and kind to everyone I meet but I’ve never encountered anyone that has treated me badly or tried to take advantage of me. My Spanish is not perfect but people seem to appreciate my effort and I can always drive to some expat events or take a taxi.

      I agree that what’s best varies for each individual situation. The most important thing is doing your homework, there is a tremendous amount of information available and Medellin Guru is my personal favorite.

    11. Nice to see this post about the downsides of El Poblado. The gringo real estate firms likely aren’t happy to see this post. They seem to be mainly pushing properties in El Poblado. Keep up the good work!

      I trialed living in El Poblado for three months. It did not take long for me to explore some other neighborhoods and decide that El Poblado wasn’t for me. El Poblado is definitely more expensive than other neighborhoods and you can find similar apartments elsewhere. Also, since I am over 60 I didn’t like all the hills in El Poblado. It wasn’t very walkable for me even walking from the Poblado metro station to Provenza where I was renting. I decided to live in Laureles where it is flat and easy to walk everywhere. I walk to the grocery store, drugstore, barber and many local restaurants. Also, I can find inexpensive meals at local restaurants, something that is missing in El Poblado. My quality of life is much better in Laureles than it was in El Poblado for less money.

    12. El Poblado is essentially a U.S.-version of Colombia that is being ¨Americanized¨. So absolutely no way I would want to live in El Poblado.

      • I agree with you. No way I would live in El Poblado that is an Americanized version of Colombia. I did not move to Colombia to live in a place that is trying to be like the U.S.

      • You mean like the U.S. when it comes to acceptable levels of security, a halfway decent infrastructure, availability of high speed internet and a nice variety of places to go and things to do? 🙂 And rest assured, the first language is still Spanish (feel almost like Miami… 😉

        • No, I mean Americanized with McDonald’s, KFC, Dominos Pizza, Papa Johns, Burger King, Hooters and many more. Plus rude Americans that I don’t want to be associated with who walk around Parque Lleras and Provenza in shorts and flip-flops as if they own the place and talk so crudely about Colombian women.

          Also, El Poblado seems to be missing the Colombian culture found in other barrios. I moved here to immerse in the culture and can’t do that in El Poblado in my opinion.

          • Barbara I agree with you. Parque Lleras is horrible in my opinion with all the gringos in shorts and flip-flops, plus the prostitution and drugs that goes on there. I never go to Parque Lleras anymore and I try to stay away from El Poblado. I lived in El Poblado only 3 weeks before I decided it wasn’t for me and moved to Sabaneta, where life is better and it is easier to feel you are part of the local community.

          • Other than Hooters you can find each of those restaurants in Laureles. I was in Provenza for several months but didn’t care for the Parque Lleras vibe for all of the reasons mentioned in other comments. I’m a big fan of Laureles but it’s got all the American chain restaurants and a Starbucks to boot. Fortunately many, although not all (Carmen, el cielo, OCI.mde, Barcal… are holdouts) of the excellent restaurants in Provenza have Laureles branches. La Causa, Mistura, Ammazza Gin Garden, Voraz, Puerto Inka, etc., have restaurants in both Laureles and El Poblado.

            You get a lot of the same walkability in the Otraparte and Villagrande sectors of Envigado. However, depending on how much of a foodie you are you may find Envigado a notch below either Laureles or El Poblado in terms of dining. There are plenty of great options. Having had 100+ dinners in Medellin I’ll contend that the better restaurants in El Poblado surpass the better restaurants in Envigado. However with the money you save on rent you can easily get a taxi for a special night out.

            For me the walkability of Laureles combined with the abundance of restaurants makes it an ideal choice. Other than the occasional trips to San Diego, Oviedo, or Santa Fe you really don’t need to use a car.

            In fairness I think it’s only fair to point out that in many respects there are some advantages to those high end buildings in El Poblado. Only a handful of buildings in Laureles have 24/7 porteria, a viable gym (more than a treadmill), and a legit pool. Many of them don’t offer the same killer view that the high rises in the hills have (there’s a reason that the background on my Zoom is a picture from my place in Provenza and not from Laureles.) Those are the norm in El Poblado. Additionally, many of the kitchens in Laureles are simpler. I’ve stayed in several Airbnbs there while looking for a new rental that either didn’t have an oven at all or had the mini-oven. Dishwashers are not the norm. My kitchen in Provenza had double ovens and a six burner gas stove with an indoor grill. Do you need those things? Do you want those things? Should you spend the money on those things? Maybe and maybe not. That’s your call. But I can certainly understand why some people choose to live in El Poblado even if I don’t anymore.

    13. Exactly why I decided to buy condo in Bogota at half the price. Walk to everything and good public transportation. Still learning Spanish but manage just fine, and got residency and bank accounts.

    14. Usually places are higher priced because people find it desirable to live there..

      • Not necessarily — El Colombiano in 2016 reported that in El Poblado it was taking on average 11 months for an owner to rent an unfurnished apartment. This compared to only 3 months in Laureles at the time. Isn’t that a better measure of desirability — how long it takes to rent an apartment on average? Also, El Poblado is higher priced because about 74 percent of the households in El Poblado are estrato 6.

    15. All true. But your readers clearly have different priorities and financial possibilities, which affects their preferences. Once you have bought your apartment, supposing you can (I sold an apartment in Canada and I did not find prices in El Poblado excessive in comparison), if you are of middle to upper middle income earner or pensioner by Canadian, US, or European standards, you can well afford to live in El Poblado. If I lived with minimal resources and/or on a low pension, I would stay in Canada. If I were rich, I would live in Europe.
      I am a city dweller at heart. Not everyone is. Everything I need has to be close to where I live ( within 4 kms). I would not live in a suburb environment ( unless I had young children) such as Sabaneta. And I would not live in a small pueblo. But that’s me and my priorities. I find that El Poblado gives me everything I need, including a large range of good and diverse quality restaurants I can walk too, as well as medical services.
      When I was seeking out an apartment to buy, I excluded any in the high hills: it had to be close to Av. del Poblado. A bit, but not too much walking up is good exercise I need. I do not own a car and use public transportation and cheap taxis, although I mostly live in El Poblado and usually only go out of it when friends or family visits to show them around the city. On or close to Av. del Poblado, from calle 12 to calle 7sur, I find about everything I need to live in a pleasant El Poblado environment.
      Foreigners are a small minority in El Poblado. You will have the impression that there are many more if you only go to their favorite watering holes. And I find the diversity pleasant ( uneducated tourists are to be found everywhere in the world). Yes, they come for the many places they can go out to for a pleasant meal, drinks, or late night outings: I really appreciate that for my visitors, and they do too (pointing them to the right directions near by from my apartment which can be done on foot, with the normal advice given anywhere concerning avoiding any unpleasant experiences).
      I mention all this because I do get really annoyed with those putting down El Poblado in favour of their own neighbourhoods.
      Jeff has got it right when he says that the right neighbourhood depends on each one’s own priorities, and I would add each one’ possibilities taking into account budget and family issues. But El Poblado does remain a favourite of foreigners… and for good reasons !!!
      If I did not live in El Poblado, I simply would not be living in Medellín. To each his/her own ?.

    16. Great list!

      Only two items from the list bother me about El Poblado – traffic and hills.

      Not much you can do about traffic, but I tend to walk down hill and taxi up hill.

      Another downside not mentioned: El Poblado is not only full of foreigners, but also jam-packed with the snottiest paisas in all of Medellin.

      • I agree that poblado is full of foreigners and I don’t want to associate with most of them and also snotty paisas. No way I would want to live there.

    17. Another downside of El Poblado is all the expats I don’t want to ever associate with. Expats staying in hostels and running around in shorts and flip-flops. Older expats with too young Colombian chicas. Expats into drugs and other nefarious activities.

      El Poblado is my least favorite part of Medellin.

    18. With the influx of Venezuelan’s , what in your opinion is the most notable change. Safety is my #1 concern. overcrowding is another.

      • Venezuelans and are not a safety concern in my opinion. They are at the bottom of the food chain. and powerless. They are begging at every street corner. I dont ever have pocket change any more because i give it all to the Venezuelans. Its really sad to see.

    19. El Poblado is not like the rest of Medellin. It’s westernized so is more comfortable for many foreigners. But if you want to immerse yourself into the local culture you should look at other neighborhoods. I decided to live in Laureles due to it being a cheaper place to live and is very walkable. No way I would want to live in hilly Poblado.

    20. Beverly Hills has the same “downsides.”

    21. I can’t argue against any of the fine points made in this post. The reason I can’t is because I’m a semi-regular tourist to Medellin and not an expat. There’s a vast difference between the two entities. If I were to ever retire and live in the city full-time then I would probably take the advice given here and live in some other neighborhood. However, since many who will read this information are tourists, their best experiences in the city are going to come down to primarily one thing:

      Do you speak or are you fluent in Spanish?

      If you are NOT fluent in Spanish and you’re visiting Medellin then the clear choice is El Poblado. Many people decry El Poblado for it’s Westernization, cost of living, etc. but if you need a convenient hotel or Airbnb stay for a week or two, numerous casual to fine dining restaurants, close access to multiple shopping areas and transportation then El Poblado is probably a safer bet for you. The Spanish fluency aspect is seemingly always overlooked when it comes to Poblado vs. everywhere else in the city. There’s more English spoken in this part of the city than any other. That makes a difference if you ever have to deal with a medical or other emergency. Even if you have the Spanish basics like me, El Poblado is still a good bet because frankly the Paisas in the Poblado area are more accustomed to having you butcher their language in your attempt to learn and become more fluent-LOL! In my opinion, they’re much more understanding of your lack of verb conjugation and pronoun usage than in other parts of the city.

      I’ve spent more time following the other Medellin discussion boards/social media and still cannot understand why El Poblado garners such strong negative opinion and emotion. Yes, El Poblado IS expensive but clearly there are people in Medellin who can happily afford it. Somebody is climbing those hills to get to their apartment high-rise, paying more in rent/utilities than in other parts of the city and is perfectly fine with it…and it’s not just Gringos! I grew up in Southern California where affluent-wealthy areas abound. These wealthy areas are no more or less the “real” parts of whatever city they happened to be in. Every major city in the world has such areas but for some reason many expats feel that Poblado deserves the brush-off because there’s a Burger King 3 blocks from SanteFe Mall. This, despite the fact that when you peek through the window, Paisas by the dozens are patiently waiting in line to place their order…for an expensive westernized American burger.

      Frankly, I think for expats, Poblado is a reminder of the country they left and now that they live in Medellin, they insist that the culture they fell in love with not change.

      • Jeff,
        I could not agree more with you. In each and every city I know there are expensive and not so expensive neighborhoods, deal with it. Nobody forces you to visit Gringo fast food chains. I personally see them as a sign of Colombia’s “normalization” and being open and a good alternative for doing business. I am visiting Colombia on a regular basis since the mid nineties, and the “purity” (read absence of international chains) back then had some very dire underlying reasons. If I would ever consider moving to the MDE area, I would try to get as far up the hills in El Poblado for a reason that Jeff, in my opinion, skips a bit over, and this is air quality. The higher up the valley, the better the air quality, I would assume.
        Cheers
        Harry

        • Hi Harry, thanks. Yes, higher up the hills there is typically less pollution. But there are hills not only in El Poblado. Also, hill options in Envigado, Sabaneta and Belén.

          Pollution is a topic that will be covered in detail in a future article.

          • Hi Jeff, I would definitively look forward to an article covering the air pollution topic. Already “Thanks in advance” for that
            Cheers
            Harry
            (NB and off topic: can we still hope on a comparison MDE to some Brazilian locations, Paraty or P’toSeguro, e.g. (just my personal favorites..:-) ))

          • Jeff, the KJ Art & Coffee shop closed and another coffee shop has opened up in the space.
            Hard Rock Cafe has been closed for over a year now. I live in Poblado and it is pricey…pero no me importa, me gusta Poblado & I do speak fluent español

            • Thanks, yes I knew that Hard Rock Cafe had closed but had not updated this article – now is updated with it removed.

      • In Medellín nothing better than Laureles. And outside Medellín; Nothing better than Guatape!

        • To each his own. To me Laureles is too hot and has more pollution, since it is low in the Aburrá Valley. I prefer Sabaneta, which has a lower cost of living and more of a pueblo feel to it. Guatapé is nice but it’s a tourist pueblo that I would be completely bored in after less than 1 week, as it is too small.

          • Mike New York January 14, 2019

            Is Envigado more like El Poblado or Sabaneta? I personally love Laureles and plan to retire there but not being a full time ex-pat I don’t know if the pollution will eventually get to me. Like to keep my options open.

            • Envigado is pretty big. I would say some parts of Envigado are like El Poblado and some parts are more like Sabaneta.

              Some expats like Laureles-Estadio. I lived there for a year but found it was a bit warm during the day when the sun was out and I felt the pollution more there. Also, I got tired of walking up stairs. It turns out many buildings in Laureles don’t have elevators or 24×7 porterias – a downside.

      • I do not mind paying more for the quality of life I get living in poblado, Iike having the choice of going to La Provincia, La Cafetiere De Anita, or Brutal restaurant, or Blue House restaurant for a 11,000.00 menu del dia. I haved lived 3 months an in Niquia across from the niquia train station for 3 months. an 3 months in Laureles next to Parque Segundo.

        I have a Colombian retirement visa an I will be living in Poblado the rest of my time in Medellin as I love the restaurant selection in poblado so I do not mind paying extra for everything as it is a bargain compared to living in south beach florida.

        • Conny nichols April 29, 2019

          Right on, Dan, and ditto! I would not trade my Poblado neighborhood for anything, given the considerable upsides that far surpass the downsides. The truth is that for each “downside” there are far more upsides that make my choice in neighborhoods a no brainer.

          And, although there are some truths to this article’s portrayal of El Poblado, it fails to present an accurate study of Medellin’s largest burrough. If I had a nickel for every article or post left in all the expat forums that wrongly evaluate El Poblado! For starters, El Poblado, as the largest burrough of Medellin, is made up of 25 different neighborhoods where ALL estratos are well represented. I have yet to find a luxury residential building with decent sized apartments that rent for more than $3 M in barrio Manila, one my favorite neighborhoods of mostly estrato 3. And yes, it’s in El Poblado. Surrounding my neck o’ the woods near El Tesoro alone, there are 3 estrato 2 working class neighborhoods, all majorly subsidized by their estrato 5 and 6 neighbors. After multiple conversations I have had with my estrato 2 neighbors who happily admit to their substantially improved quality of life as a result of socio economic changes brought by estrato 5 & 6 neighborhoods, it makes me feel good that somehow my taxes are going toward those families improved life.

          My two cents is that it’s important that articles that cover El Poblado do so while clearly identifying the exact part of El Poblado they’re referring to. As mentioned above, El Poblado is the largest burrough with 25 very different neighborhoods where some of the claims made do not even apply. Not all neighborhoods of El Poblado are expensive, they are actually highly affordable, even more than many of the areas of Sabaneta, Laureles or Envigado. Traffic is NOT nightmarish in all areas of El Poblado, there are many quiete and peaceful areas where traffic does not diminish the quality of life.
          Additionally, not ALL my estrato 2 and 3 neighbors in El Poblado are paying more for everything, as claimed in this article. So, to say that “everything” is more expensive in El Poblado is greatly inaccurate.

          I love my neighborhood. There is so much to like than to dislike. I wish portrayals of El Poblado were more accurate, had more fairness to them and were less generalized instead of blanket descriptions of the entire burrough.

          • El Poblado IS NOT the largest borough (comuna) in Medellín. Both Belén and Robledo have larger populations than El Poblado. And Belén is 30 sq. km compared to 23 sq. km. for El Poblado. Belén is actually the largest comuna in Medellín in terms of both size and population.

            Also, in El Poblado, 97 percent of households in El Poblado are estrato 4, 5 or 6; 93 percent are estrato 5 or 6; and 74 percent are estrato 6. Estato 2 and 3 represent only 3 percent of El Poblado, so it’s a tiny percentage of the homes in El Poblado.

            The bottom line is there are several El Poblado downsides covered in this article which explains why the majority of expats living in Medellín do not live in El Poblado.

            Also, when we surveyed apartment rental costs we included some of the estrato 3 properties in El Poblado, which you can see in the wide range of rental prices – https://medellinguru.com/2018-unfurnished-apartment-rental-costs/. True you can find a few cheap properties in estrato 2 or 3 in El Poblado and these will be cheaper than estrato 4 or 5 in Sabaneta, Laureles or Envigado. But Sabaneta and Envigado also have estrato 2, 3 and even some estrato 1 properties.

      • Well said, Jeff. I agree with you.

    22. Bob Larson January 13, 2019

      The hills for me when visiting were grueling. I was thinking to myself jokingly it was a downside and boom you mentioned it.

      • My husband and I bought an apartment in el poblado after a six week visit. We lived in the apartment roughly 8 months more or less. Besides the downsides of the expense of Poblado it is overly commercialized with having to leave your apartment for green spaces. We are now in that hidden jewel Jeff spoke of Barbosa living a wonderful life on our Finca its an amazing place and while we traded estrato 6 for 2 we couldn’t be more pleased. We can get to éxito in Bello in less then 30 minutes and the air is cleaner and it’s just amazingly beautiful here. I am glad we experienced Poblado and loved the conveniences but the trade off is amazing.

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